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Jul. 13th, 2008 | 01:36 pm



So Hellboy II was a fun little flick, with a couple of great lines ("I'm not a baby, I'm a tumour!"), one major unfortunate side effect – that dumb Barry Manilow song has been stuck in my head ever since, vanishing briefly only to be brought back, and one minor irritating visual…let's call it inconvenience – the godawful golden belt/corset thing that poor Princess Nuala was stuck in, seemingly designed to make her otherwise awesome figure look as dreadful as possible – even if we could look beyond the tackiness, which I couldn't. I got, of course, from a story perspective, why the thing had to be that large – after all, if you're part of a crown, and you don't want to just look like a really tacky and oversized belt buckle, better to be part of a really tacky and oversized corset. And also, I assume that since she was wearing the corset constantly, she was also wearing the thing to bed, for, you know, thousands and thousands of years, which made me realize that the main reason her skin looked so white and dreadful wasn't actually her need to hire another maid, but her utter and complete lack of sleep over the past several years. At least Liz, in a major departure from the depiction of nearly every other woman in every other superhero movie so far, seemed to wearing appropriate clothing in most scenes. Yay for that. But I digress.

For the most part, Hellboy II is just a visually arresting comic book piece, a bit incoherent here and there, with an especially cool scene set in the magical areas underneath the Brooklyn Bridge (admit it; you've always wondered what sort of mystical market existed down there) and fun battles with tree things and clockwork things and, well, yes, that Barry Manilow bit (it's stuck in my head, so it might as well get stuck in yours.) And those so cute Tooth Fairies able to eat you all up. I always knew something was wrong with that tale.

But right underneath that is something else, something mostly incoherent: a hint of concern for human greed and consumerism, a hint of wondering if humanity is really worth saving – and, as always in del Toro films, the questioning of where the line is between fantasy and reality. It's not as powerful or as intricate or beautifully put together as Pan's Labyrinth, but it's also a lot less troubling and wrenching, and not a bad way to spend an afternoon or evening.

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chattycatsmeow

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from: [info]chattycatsmeow
date: Jul. 13th, 2008 06:08 pm (UTC)
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The main descriptor for the movie that I came away with is- muddled. Interestingly enough, you've used two of the other descriptors that came to me - visually arresting and incoherent.

This is a movie that is a visual feast, but lacks substance, partly because it couldn't decide what kind of movie it wanted to be or what message it wanted to send. It did have little nuggets of goodness here and there, but overall I found it lacking.

I loved the look of the scenes with the Elf-kind. There is a beauty, elegance, and grace to the sets and costumes for those. I also couldn't help thinking that the Evil Elf Prince Nuada was hot as hell. He really carried off those elegant coat & boot ensembles.

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Mari Ness

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from: [info]mariness
date: Jul. 13th, 2008 08:34 pm (UTC)
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Yes, but those elegant coat & boot ensembles just showcased that his sister's corset thing was absolutely tacky!

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chattycatsmeow

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from: [info]chattycatsmeow
date: Jul. 13th, 2008 10:57 pm (UTC)
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::hangs head in shame::

I...I liked the look of the Championship Wrestling Belt Golden Girdle, even though it did look like the kind of thing that one should only wear when standing. The minute she tried to sit, it would be poking her.

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Mari Ness

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from: [info]mariness
date: Jul. 13th, 2008 11:44 pm (UTC)
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Yes, but combined with whatever they had on top, they took a woman with an absolutely awesome figure and made it seem as if she had no breasts AND had an overlong waist, not to mention the sitting problem. Plus I didn't like the look with most of the skirts that she was wearing, and it definitely looked tawdry and cheap.

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Wonderful Hell

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from: [info]felisdemens
date: Jul. 13th, 2008 08:04 pm (UTC)
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I'll address this further when/if I review the movie, but I HATE LIZ. She is the crappiest and most useless pyrokinetic EVAR. Bitch, you can BURN THING WITH YOUR MIND. The fuck do you even HAVE a gun?

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Mari Ness

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from: [info]mariness
date: Jul. 13th, 2008 08:33 pm (UTC)
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Plus, although I get that they were trying to make it a Major Dramatic Plot Point and all that, she should have just told Hellboy, "Dude. Stop screwing around because you're going to be a father, and our relationship? Not boding well for joint parenthood at this point."

But at least her clothing wasn't making me scream.

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Mario di Giacomo

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from: [info]mdg1
date: Jul. 13th, 2008 10:32 pm (UTC)
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When the thingy said that line, I turned to Cereubfangirl (my usual movie companion) and said, in a horrific German accent: "Itz nod a tuhmor!"

However, Seth McFarlane, as Johann Krauss, beat me in the German cultural references with his last-line Mell Brooks shoutout. :)

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Mari Ness

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from: [info]mariness
date: Jul. 13th, 2008 11:45 pm (UTC)
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Yeah, that was amusing. Pity Johann Krauss was one of the more muddled parts of the film -- I got a feeling a lot of his bits were later cut, explaining otherwise "huh" moments from him.

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Mario di Giacomo

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from: [info]mdg1
date: Jul. 13th, 2008 11:58 pm (UTC)
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Probably. I know him from the comics, so his origin and motivation were not needed, but a little more backstory (maybe while he was talking to Liz) might have helped.

Is "schvanstucker" a real word?

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Mari Ness

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from: [info]mariness
date: Jul. 13th, 2008 11:59 pm (UTC)
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It ought to be.

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the queen of all schadenfreude

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from: [info]animamea
date: Jul. 14th, 2008 12:42 am (UTC)
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When the credits started rolling, I turned to my companions and said "That was the GREATEST Changeling campaign I have EVER SEEN!"

I think some important plot stuff was cut to make room for more awsum fight scenes. I don't know if I want to complain about it, though.

I also had a mild "WTF?" reaction to Nuala's corsety thing.

And I like Liz. She's pretty rad.

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Mari Ness

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from: [info]mariness
date: Jul. 14th, 2008 12:46 am (UTC)
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Yeah, I thought Hellboy had some distinctive redcap qualities to him.

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The TechnoMensch

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from: [info]technomensch
date: Jul. 14th, 2008 01:23 am (UTC)
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I do have to admit that my favorite scene was the two of them sitting there, singing. If their version was available on iTunes or Amazon, the full version, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Of course, nothing can take away from that stunning visual. I'm surprised it's not on youtube by now.

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Mari Ness

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from: [info]mariness
date: Jul. 14th, 2008 01:24 am (UTC)
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Except that now that damn song won't get out of my head!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And not their voices, but the Barry Manilow version!

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Meander

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from: [info]meandering
date: Jul. 14th, 2008 03:56 am (UTC)
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I just saw it and liked it too. I had the Manilow song stuck in my head until after I got home. Heh.

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Mari Ness

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from: [info]mariness
date: Jul. 14th, 2008 12:13 pm (UTC)
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You know, that song had finally left my head...

....and then I read your comment, and it's back.

CURSE THIS SONG! CURSE BARRY MANILOW!

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Meander

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from: [info]meandering
date: Jul. 14th, 2008 03:02 pm (UTC)
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Doh! I can't even remember how it goes. :-/

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